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working at a startup and big company is all things like leveling promotions and figuring out your career trajectory being an early employee at a few startups now currently in notion frankly to say in the beginning it's kind of like the wild wild west you get the job you figure it out it was really a matter
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all things like leveling promotions and
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figuring out your career trajectory
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being an early employee at a few
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startups now currently in notion frankly
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to say in the beginning it's kind of
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like the wild wild west you get the job
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you figure it out it was really a matter
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of like how is the business doing what are the most pressing business needs and often that determined your role and your trajectory and fast forward to now we have grown a lot and we're in this transition phase of introducing leveling at the company now which means that there are set levels this is what each
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are the most pressing business needs and
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often that determined your role and your
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trajectory and fast forward to now we
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have grown a lot and we're in this
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transition phase of introducing leveling
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at the company now which means that
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there are set levels this is what each
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level means and to go to the next level you need to meet abc criteria so it's very like crystal clear laid out and it kind of just made me think about to the like earlier days and how i actually missed that wild wild west environment even with like promotions or like compensations i actually asked for
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you need to meet abc criteria so it's
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very like crystal clear laid out and it
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kind of just made me think about to the
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like earlier days and how i actually
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missed that wild wild west environment
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even with like promotions or like
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compensations i actually asked for
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raises like quite often almost like twice a year i would say and yeah some of them were successful some were not but anytime the scope of my role was increased i did bring it up and obviously like i wouldn't be able to do that now now we have like yearly cycles and etcetera
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twice a year i would say and yeah some
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of them were successful some were not
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but anytime the scope of my role was
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increased i
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did bring it up and obviously like i
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wouldn't be able to do that now now we
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have like yearly cycles and etcetera
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etcetera all i just say pros and cons
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so one thing that's definitely different about a big corporation versus a startup in terms of career development is that the focus is more on you versus the company and you just generally get a lot more support there's more resources available so for instance at google there's this thing called a 20 stretch
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about a big corporation versus a startup
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in terms of career development is that
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the focus is more on you versus the
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company and you just generally get a lot
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more support there's more resources
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available so for instance at google
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there's this thing called a 20 stretch
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project where you can find roles where you spend 20 of your overall time and see if you might be interested in them not only do you have the opportunity to spend some time outside of your day job to try these new roles but there are just so many diverse roles at a company
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you spend 20 of your overall time and
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see if you might be interested in them
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not only do you have the opportunity to
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spend some time outside of your day job
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to try these new roles but there are
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just so many diverse roles at a company
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as big as google that you could pretty much find within those 20 structurals something that you're actually interested in or something you might not have even known existed i recently had a career development talk with my manager and i let her know that getting more direct management experience is really important to me and my career growth and
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much find within those 20 structurals
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something that you're actually
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interested in or something you might not
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have even known existed i recently had a
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career development talk with my manager
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and i let her know that getting more
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direct management experience is really
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important to me and my career growth and
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i was honestly very surprised at how easy it was to share that that was my desire and how it's actually possible to get that type of experience and so i think that just shows the resourcing and support available make it feasible for you to get that type of experience and
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easy it was to share that that was my
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desire and how it's actually possible to
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get that type of experience and so i
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think that just shows the resourcing and
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support available make it feasible for
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you to get that type of experience and
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you to get that type of experience and growth
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i know my mom taught me that i figured i know my mom taught me that i figured Music so i just had some lunch and i'm also realizing that a lot of backdrops are very dark i didn't realize that until i started filming i actually just finished my performance review process which was
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i know my mom taught me that i figured Music
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so i just had some lunch and i'm also
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realizing that a lot of backdrops are
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very dark i didn't realize that until i
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started filming i actually just finished
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my performance review process which was
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called perf now we're moving to grad that's another story there is basically leveling across google at each level you have very clear responsibilities and objectives that you need to meet a good performance review would basically be if you are consistently exceeding expectations that would demonstrate that you're ready for the next level during my performance review my manager
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that's another story there is basically
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leveling across google at each level you
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have very clear responsibilities and
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objectives that you need to meet a good
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performance review would basically be if
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you are consistently exceeding
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expectations that would demonstrate that
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you're ready for the next level during
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my performance review my manager
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basically just walked me through what was expected at my level and she also shared what was expected at the next level we actually listed out all my projects and basically the expectations of each quarter under that project so under project a i have you one goals queue two goals two goals thank you for
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was expected at my level and she also
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shared what was expected at the next
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level we actually listed out all my
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projects and basically the expectations
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of each quarter under that project so
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under project a i have you one goals
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queue two goals two goals thank you for
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goals you can look back in time and see if you're able to hit those goals maybe you even exceeded them and i think having that reference point and being able to put metrics behind that really helps you showcase your work and being able to present that something that i've really learned across all my jobs i will
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if you're able to hit those goals maybe
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you even exceeded them and i think
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having that reference point and being
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able to put metrics behind that really
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helps you showcase your work and being
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able to present that something that i've
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really learned across all my jobs i will
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say that at a corporate there tends to be more clear guidelines on what can get you to the next level i personally appreciate having that type of structure but obviously at any big corporation there's just a lot more bureaucracy and hr guidelines that follow every promotion so there are definitely pros and cons to both
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be more clear guidelines on what can get
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you to the next level i personally
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appreciate having that type of structure
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but obviously at any big corporation
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there's just a lot more bureaucracy and
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hr guidelines that follow every
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promotion so there are definitely pros
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and cons to both
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and cons to both Music i finally finished my peer review self reflection feedback thing and it took so long you nominate people that you work closely with in the last six months to give you feedback and your manager can nominate people on your behalf and then also you write a self-reflection one
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i finally finished my peer review self
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reflection feedback thing and it took so
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long you nominate people that you work
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closely with in the last six months to
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give you feedback and your manager can
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nominate people on your behalf and then
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also you write a self-reflection one
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thing i've really learned in my career so far is the importance of advocating for yourself and the biggest way to do that is being able to speak to your work and to speak to your impact my first job out of college i was such like a worker bee and like heads down and like very shy i
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so far is the importance of advocating
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for yourself and the biggest way to do
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that is being able to speak to your work
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and to speak to your impact my first job
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out of college i was such like a worker
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bee and like heads down and like very
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shy i
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thought that like oh my work should speak for itself people will notice people did not notice right they uh were like oh jenny what are you doing and later on i learned like oh i in some way kind of need to be my own pr in some way kind of need to be my own pr team
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speak for itself people will notice
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people did not notice right they uh were
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like oh jenny what are you doing and
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later on i learned like oh i
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in some way kind of need to be my own pr
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in some way kind of need to be my own pr team
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where i need to continually speak about what i'm working on the impact of my work to not only my direct boss but the team and the company because that actually shifts like perception and perception matters and it can directly affect your uh trajectory your compensation whatever all that to say the good advice i got
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what i'm working on the impact of my
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work to
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not only my direct boss but the team and
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the company because that actually shifts
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like perception and perception matters
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and it can directly affect your uh
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trajectory your compensation whatever
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all that to say the good advice i got
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from my old boss on how to write myself reflection it shows that you should organize your answer into three buckets metrics projects and team metrics part is tangible numbers on how you incrementally move the needle for the business anything that you can measure you should write in terms of like projects like what were
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write myself reflection it shows that
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you should organize your answer into
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three buckets metrics projects and team
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metrics part is tangible numbers on how
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you incrementally move the needle for
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the business anything that you can
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measure you should write
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in terms of like projects like what were
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the biggest projects that had a significant impact on yourself your team etc and then lastly for team how did you improve or contribute to the company or team culture meeting so i also just wanted to share a few tips i've picked up when it comes to thinking about your career development
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significant impact on yourself your team
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etc and then lastly for team how did you
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improve or contribute to
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the company or team culture
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meeting so i also just wanted to share a
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few tips i've picked up when it comes to
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thinking about your career development
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and moving up i would say the first thing is that i always make sure that i'm having face time with my manager i think that you should always be showcasing your work not just when it comes time for performance reviews this is something that i really learned in one of my earlier jobs don't expect
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thing is that i always make sure that
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i'm having face time with my manager
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i think that you should always be
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showcasing your work not just when it
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comes time for performance reviews this
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is something that i really learned in
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one of my earlier jobs don't expect
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people to know what you're working on and what you're achieving if you are not the one sharing that with them having your managers involvement in your career makes them also want to advocate for you because they are personally invested in your growth and development the next thing is to also be thinking about
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and what you're achieving if you are not
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the one sharing that with them having
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your managers involvement in your career
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makes them also want to advocate for you
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because they are personally invested in
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your growth and development the next
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thing is to also be thinking about
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besides your manager you know when time comes to talk about your potential promotion or your growth at the company like who is in that room with your manager i'm assuming it's usually you know your manager your skip levels but it's also their colleagues and you just want to make sure that they are able to
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comes to talk about your potential
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promotion or your growth at the company
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like who is in that room with your
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manager i'm assuming it's usually you
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know your manager your skip levels but
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it's also their colleagues and you just
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want to make sure that they are able to
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say a few good things about you in those meetings and you know those few words go a long way lastly i think moving up advancing your career all that is great but also evaluate you know does this all align to your north star are you even happy at the place that you are working i like to
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meetings and you know those few words go
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a long way lastly i think moving up
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advancing your career
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all that is great but also evaluate you
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know does this all align to your north
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star are you even happy at the place
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that you are working i like to
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personally draw down emotions that may differ from my everyday emotions at work so if i'm feeling particularly happy or motivated unhappy or just frustrated i like to jot these all down eventually you know when you look back on six months you can see if you've spent the majority of your time feeling really unhappy for instance
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differ from my everyday emotions at work
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so if i'm feeling particularly happy or
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motivated unhappy or just frustrated i
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like to jot these all down eventually
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you know when you look back on six
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months you can see if you've spent the
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majority of your time
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feeling really unhappy for instance
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instead of just as i once did blindly just trying to like reach the next step really evaluate if that next step is even right for you so you need a little breakup to log off soon but i wanted to quickly mention the importance of like managing up in terms of promotions leveling yada
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just trying to like reach the next step
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really evaluate if that next step is
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even right for you
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so you need a little breakup
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to log off soon but i wanted to quickly
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mention the importance of like managing
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up in terms of promotions leveling yada
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yada all of that so right now for me i have a new boss he joined like two weeks ago so a lot of like my week was giving him a ton of context and like institutional knowledge i would say that at startups there are typically more turnover in terms of management um
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have a new boss he joined like two weeks
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ago so a lot of like my week was giving
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him a ton of context and like
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institutional knowledge i would say that
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at startups there are typically more
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turnover in terms of management um
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because a lot of the time like you get layered and that's pretty normal as a company matures like the need to hire very senior executives like that need grows right now it's like my fourth manager during my like three year tenure at notion so far so i had to learn to
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layered and that's pretty normal as a
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company matures like the need to hire
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very senior executives like that need
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grows right now it's like my fourth
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manager during my like three year tenure
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at notion so far so i had to learn to
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like adjust very quickly like who is my new boss they are very different from each other everyone has different quirks how they receive information what makes their ears perk up what's their management style some people have user manuals which i find really helpful which is here's like any like fyi's about me that you should know about
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new boss they are very different from
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each other everyone has different quirks
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how they receive information what makes
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their ears perk up what's their
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management style some people have user
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manuals which i find really helpful
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which is here's like any like fyi's
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about me that you should know about
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working with me but a lot of things go unsaid as well so i try to like pick up on that really quickly and understand like okay how can i best work with this person to like navigate that relationship because a lot of the times your manager has the most direct impact on your career trajectory at a given
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unsaid as well so i try to like pick up
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on that really quickly and understand
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like okay how can i best work with this
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person to like navigate that
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relationship because a lot of the times
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your manager has the most direct impact
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on your career trajectory at a given
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company you know how they say people leave managers like they don't leave companies like i think that's very very true i wish it didn't always have to be that way but it is i think with the many managers i've had so far in a very like short period of time i've learned to really ramp up quickly
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leave managers like they don't leave
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companies like i think that's very very
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true i wish it didn't always have to be
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that way but it is i think with the many
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managers i've had so far in a very like
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short period of time
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i've learned to really ramp up quickly
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on that and it's proven to become a very necessary skill i'm gonna log off now sunset into the weekend sunset into the weekend bye bye Music
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necessary skill i'm gonna log off now
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sunset into the weekend
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sunset into the weekend bye
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bye Music