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big tech employee vs startup founder ep.4 | NYC meetup, self-doubt, performance reviews

big tech employee vs startup founder ep.4 | NYC meetup, self-doubt, performance reviews

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Welcome back to the Grass is Greener Series ✨ Episode 4 ✨, where we show our lives in parallel as a big tech employee (Google) and a startup founder (formerly early Notion). Chances are, the grass isn’t necessarily greener on the other side — it’s greener where you choose to water it 🪴 In this episode, we work through managing self-doubt as a first-time founder, getting buy-in at a big company, and performance reviews. ⏰ Timestamps 00:00 Intro 00:55 NYC meetup 01:36 Morning 04:44 Afternoon 08.40 Evening 🎵 Music [https://www.epidemicsound.com/referr] 👋 Say hi! Instagram: @twentysmths 📮 Any suggestions or questions? Send us a note at hello@twentysmths.com
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2.1s quarterly reviews last year because I just felt like I didn't have any momentum how I'm feeling right now is that I know what mountain I'm climbing and I'm realizing just how steep and treacherous it quite is I feel like a little weight off my shoulders but not totally because I actually have a presentation every day this week
3.6s just felt like I didn't have any
5.5s momentum how I'm feeling right now is
7.6s that I know what mountain I'm climbing
9.5s and I'm realizing just how steep and
11.5s treacherous it quite is I feel like a
13.7s little weight off my shoulders but not
15.2s totally because I actually have a
16.9s presentation every day this week
19.0s sometimes the doubts take over sometimes the convictions like shut the f up doubts welcome back to the grass is greener series if you're new here hi I'm Amy I work at Google and most of my career is in big corporates like Google and Disney hey I'm Jenny and I've been an early employee at startups like
20.8s the convictions like shut the f up
23.4s doubts welcome back to the grass is
25.8s greener series if you're new here hi I'm
28.5s Amy I work at Google and most of my
31.0s career is in big corporates like Google
33.0s and Disney hey I'm Jenny and I've been
35.8s an early employee at startups like
37.4s notion for most of my career and I'm currently in the early stages of starting my own company in this series we wanted to show our lives in parallel to each other inspired by this saying the grass isn't necessarily greener on the other side it's Greener where you water it nice Music view you're scrambling this
39.8s currently in the early stages of
41.4s starting my own company in this series
43.5s we wanted to show our lives in parallel
45.4s to each other inspired by this saying
48.2s the grass isn't necessarily greener on
50.0s the other side it's Greener where you
52.6s water it
61.0s nice Music
63.5s view you're scrambling this
66.2s morning it was a struggle but the weather is actually like perfect yeah it's beautiful so excited to see everybody when we were first planning for this event we were like you know what if three people show up we're happy but to our surprise so many of you all did show up and honestly we had a blast
68.7s weather is actually like perfect yeah
70.4s it's beautiful so excited to see
73.0s everybody when we were first planning
75.0s for this event we were like you know
76.9s what if three people show up we're happy
80.0s but to our surprise so many of you all
82.2s did show up and honestly we had a blast
84.7s and huge shout out to those who brought extra picnic blankets because clearly we're a little bit underprepared we're considering doing more events like this in SF and LA but yeah you let us currently 912 and just took a really long walk a shower and I'm ready to start my day and I just want to say
86.4s extra picnic blankets because clearly
88.4s we're a little bit underprepared we're
90.6s considering doing more events like this
92.4s in SF and LA but yeah you let us
101.9s currently 912 and just took a really
105.2s long walk a shower and I'm ready to
107.1s start my day and I just want to say
108.7s really quick Amy and I have been at this YouTube thing for like over 3 years and at a certain point it kind of feels like you're talking into the void so being able to see some of you guys in like real life and just like hang out and shoot the was a ton of fun so
110.2s YouTube thing for like over 3 years and
112.0s at a certain point it kind of feels like
113.6s you're talking into the void so being
115.5s able to see some of you guys in like
117.0s real life and just like hang out and
118.7s shoot the was a ton of fun so
121.9s hopefully we'll do it again it's also been getting uh warmer here in San Francisco so I am craving pineapple I'm going to start prepping for my day prepare for a meeting that I have in a few hours and we'll go from
123.7s been getting uh warmer here in San
125.2s Francisco so I am craving pineapple I'm
130.2s going to start prepping for my day
132.3s prepare for a meeting that I have in a
134.1s few hours and we'll go from
151.2s don't know if it's pineapple season but go get some pineapples they're delicious so this week I had a bunch of calls that are in like two buckets I would say the first bucket are folks that are related to the industry that I'm building in and just getting their feedback on this MVP
152.9s go get some pineapples they're delicious
155.7s so this week I had a bunch of calls that
157.3s are in like two buckets I would say the
159.3s first bucket are folks that are related
161.5s to the industry that I'm building in and
163.0s just getting their feedback on this MVP
165.3s that I'm building out and then the second Camp is folks who can connect me to MDS and phds of like certain disciplines and also huge shout out to a subscriber Jing I don't know if you're watching but Jing connected me to his close friend who's like an PhD talked to him yesterday like really great Insight
166.6s second Camp is folks who can connect me
169.6s to MDS and phds of like certain
171.8s disciplines and also huge shout out to a
174.8s subscriber Jing I don't know if you're
176.4s watching but Jing connected me to his
178.7s close friend who's like an PhD talked to
181.2s him yesterday like really great Insight
183.3s so thank you so much for the next like hour and two I'm just going to make sure I finish all the follow-ups from those calls and do more Outreach constant Outreach and then I'll check back in before my next
185.3s hour and two I'm just going to make sure
187.5s I finish all the follow-ups from those
189.6s calls and do more Outreach constant
192.5s Outreach and then I'll check back in
194.4s before my next
204.3s my presentation right now because it's at 8 my face is a little puffy right now see I can kick us off really quickly well we'll be recording this call by the way once the presentation starts for people that aren't able to join presentation I feel like a little weight off my shoulders but not totally because
206.1s at 8 my face is a little puffy right now
216.3s see I can kick us off really quickly
219.5s well we'll be recording this call by the
221.1s way once the presentation starts for
222.7s people that aren't able to join
229.2s presentation I feel like a little weight
231.1s off my shoulders but not totally because
233.2s I actually have a presentation every day this week because my project just closed out all this work has been done and now I'm finally socializing and getting feedback and acknowledgement for all the work I've done that being said I'm also trying to make the best use of everyone's time because there's just
235.2s this week because my project just closed
237.2s out all this work has been done and now
239.1s I'm finally socializing and getting
241.3s feedback and acknowledgement for all the
243.1s work I've done that being said I'm also
245.1s trying to make the best use of
246.8s everyone's time because there's just
248.0s like a lot of people on these calls when we're presenting I actually decided to hold 10 15 minutes at the end of every call to just have like an open discussion figure out like what's insightful for folks like what's interesting and I also feel like when people give feedback and are just more
249.4s we're presenting I actually decided to
251.1s hold 10 15 minutes at the end of every
253.0s call to just have like an open
254.5s discussion figure out like what's
256.2s insightful for folks like what's
257.7s interesting and I also feel like when
260.8s people give feedback and are just more
263.3s involved they feel more ownership and I want to take this project and pretty much like turn it into a program hoping that I have that socialization and buy in so it's like another reason that I'm fostering this like open Forum to get people's inputs and yeah we'll see how the day goes but the biggest thing of
265.4s want to take this project and pretty
267.0s much like turn it into a program hoping
270.0s that I have that socialization and buy
272.2s in so it's like another reason that I'm
274.0s fostering this like open Forum to get
276.3s people's inputs and yeah we'll see how
278.4s the day goes but the biggest thing of
280.0s the day has now been done so moving on to the next
283.6s to the next
291.2s finished a call uh with a super interesting guy but I just wanted to get a take on the area that I'm building I think just like how I'm feeling right now is that I know what mountain I'm climbing and I'm like looking up the mountain and I'm like realizing just how steep and a little bit treacherous it
293.3s interesting guy but I just wanted to get
294.7s a take on the area that I'm building I
297.2s think just like how I'm feeling right
298.6s now is that I know what mountain I'm
300.4s climbing and I'm like looking up the
302.2s mountain and I'm like realizing just how
304.3s steep and a little bit treacherous it
306.3s quite is and it's just like ah H yep that's what I'm signing up for some days the mountain looks so a inspiring and other days it looks like a little bit treacherous and I think today is one of those days where it looks like more the over to San Mato now um I have a meeting
309.2s ah H yep that's what I'm signing up for
313.6s some days the mountain looks so a
315.7s inspiring and other days it looks like a
317.4s little bit treacherous and I think today
319.0s is one of those days where it looks like
320.7s more the
325.6s over to San Mato now um I have a meeting
328.4s there in a few hours but figured I'd go early and beat traffic and get some lunch work at a coffee shop whatever so yeah so I made it to San Mato I'm at this like parking garage but just on my drive here I just had so many thoughts running in my mind when Amy and I first
330.8s early and beat traffic and get some
332.6s lunch work at a coffee shop whatever so
339.1s yeah so I made it to San Mato I'm at
341.8s this like parking garage but just on my
343.9s drive here I just had so many thoughts
346.6s running in my mind when Amy and I first
349.2s started the series not only did we wanted to show both sides of the spectrum of working in Tech but more importantly we just wanted to be honest about what it's really really like for me it's like revealing the underbelly of what it is really like to be in this like founder Journey one thing that is
351.0s wanted to show both sides of the
353.0s spectrum of working in Tech but more
355.6s importantly we just wanted to be honest
358.8s about what it's really really like for
360.3s me it's like revealing the underbelly of
362.6s what it is really like to be in this
364.7s like founder Journey one thing that is
367.1s so prevalent is the need for regulating your thoughts and your emotions and just the constant battle with self-doubt and being able to manage that and choosing to execute and like move forward with conviction regardless of that doubt and it's such like a interesting tension every day it feels like a dance for me
370.3s your thoughts and your emotions and just
372.3s the constant battle with self-doubt and
375.8s being able to manage that and choosing
379.3s to execute and like move forward with
382.6s conviction regardless of that doubt and
385.2s it's such like a interesting tension
387.4s every day it feels like a dance for me
389.3s some sometimes the doubts take over sometimes the convictions like shut the up doubts so today is one of those days where like the doubts are just a little bit louder I was actually talking to someone yesterday and she was like so like what if this doesn't work out like what's your backup plan and I was like I
391.2s sometimes the convictions like shut the
392.9s up doubts so today is one of those
394.7s days where like the doubts are just a
396.5s little bit louder I was actually talking
399.1s to someone yesterday and she was like so
401.5s like what if this doesn't work out like
402.8s what's your backup plan and I was like I
404.5s don't have a backup plan this is my plan in some way it was a reminder for me that I'm like very serious about this journey and I'm all in every day I ask myself do I want to do one more day of this and so far it's been yes it's constantly been a yes so whenever those
406.8s my plan in some way it was a reminder
410.6s for me that I'm like very serious about
413.1s this journey and I'm all in every day I
415.5s ask myself do I want to do one more day
417.8s of this and so far it's been yes it's
421.0s constantly been a yes so whenever those
423.1s doubts just feel a little bit louder I I just tell myself just take one day at a time tomorrow's a new
425.8s just tell myself just take one day at a
428.1s time tomorrow's a new
436.5s on this call a little suddenly I was seeing like a lot of back and forth over email about the call tomorrow there seems to be some kind of disagreement over what will be presented and I just thought it'd be easiest to get the group together we should definitely align on on the structure of the call tomorrow
438.4s seeing like a lot of back and forth over
440.4s email about the call tomorrow there
442.5s seems to be some kind of disagreement
444.4s over what will be presented and I just
446.1s thought it'd be easiest to get the group
447.7s together we should definitely align on
449.5s on the structure of the call tomorrow
451.3s and that we are all in agreement about like how we want this to be presented but I just want to get everyone's take and see if you feel like that makes sense okay great so I think we can plan to do that then hopefully we can drive some good discussions and get these over
453.4s like how we want this to be presented
455.2s but I just want to get everyone's take
456.6s and see if you feel like that makes
458.7s sense okay great so I think we can plan
461.5s to do that then hopefully we can drive
464.5s some good discussions and get these over
466.4s the fs okay bye it is 250 p.m. but basically there was a flurry of emails going back and forth regarding the presentation tomorrow and giving urgency of resolution with like call tomorrow morning I actually just sent out an invite like hell time on everyone's calendars and was like let's just make
472.4s basically there was a flurry of emails
475.1s going back and forth regarding the
477.4s presentation tomorrow and giving urgency
480.6s of resolution with like call tomorrow
482.4s morning I actually just sent out an
484.0s invite like hell time on everyone's
485.6s calendars and was like let's just make
487.2s this time work so we can like discuss this and like close it out think at any big company really like any company big or small there's always going to be like different opinions I found the best path forward is never going to be a perfect solution right because everyone is going to have a different perspective the best
488.7s this and like close it out think at any
490.9s big company really like any company big
493.2s or small there's always going to be like
494.8s different opinions I found the best path
497.3s forward is never going to be a perfect
499.3s solution right because everyone is going
501.1s to have a different perspective the best
503.2s path forward is actually just basing things on data like anything that's like factual you can't always make everyone happy and that's totally fine it seems like in this case we're all aligned with that step which is great uh we'll see how it goes
505.1s things on data like anything that's like
507.3s factual you can't always make everyone
509.0s happy and that's totally fine it seems
510.9s like in this case we're all aligned with
512.5s that step which is great uh we'll see
515.7s how it goes
533.1s my only thing I wonder if there's something even smaller that you can test out earlier yay I'm so happy for you feel like so much happened in like literally just few weeks so it's literally just few weeks so it's currently 720 and I'm back at home um had a really
535.2s something even smaller that you can test
537.3s out earlier yay I'm so happy for you
542.1s feel like so much happened in like
544.2s literally just few weeks so it's
546.1s literally just few weeks so it's currently
547.6s 720 and I'm back at home um had a really
551.1s great chat with my friend um in Sano his company's doing awesome he was able to like just give pretty good insight into what I'm building um because most of his customers are Healthcare companies so I do think he has like kind of a unique POV there I was just calling with another friend over dinner and it's so
553.7s company's doing awesome he was able to
555.5s like just give pretty good insight into
556.9s what I'm building um because most of his
559.0s customers are Healthcare companies so I
561.1s do think he has like kind of a unique
562.8s POV there I was just calling with
565.3s another friend over dinner and it's so
567.5s funny because I know like my day was kind of like like had a little bit of a low during my car drive after calling with my friend it just like was a reminder for me of how clutch having a community around you is even being able to hear my friend tell me about everything that he's
568.9s kind of like
570.2s like had a little bit of a low during my
572.4s car drive after calling with my friend
575.1s it just like was a reminder for me of
577.2s how clutch having a community around you
580.6s is even being able to hear my friend
583.3s tell me about everything that he's
585.4s learned in the past week or so and like his ups and downs and seeing that up close just gives me so much more perspective and I'm just so I'm so thankful and my day is like leveling out here now like I feel pretty good I think it's just another reminder of the ups
587.5s his ups and downs and seeing that up
590.2s close just gives me so much more
592.6s perspective and I'm just so I'm so
595.3s thankful and my day is like leveling out
598.8s here now like I feel pretty good I think
600.9s it's just another reminder of the ups
602.6s and downs are many and each Founders journey is unique but the experiences you go through during that Journey aren't I think that's where you can find a lot of camaraderie I'm going to spend the next like few hours finishing up on some Outreach stuff and call it a night
605.6s journey is unique but the experiences
607.8s you go through during that Journey
609.9s aren't I think that's where you can find
611.4s a lot of camaraderie I'm going to spend
613.1s the next like few hours finishing up on
615.6s some Outreach stuff and call it a night
634.7s um but it's like around 5 right now and I'm always late to P these because I get like pulled into a meeting or like distracted by work so I got ready for it just now I'm going to finish like one more thing at work and then I am going to call it a day and go get my
636.7s I'm always late to P these because I get
639.7s like pulled into a meeting or like
642.0s distracted by work so I got ready for it
645.3s just now I'm going to finish like one
646.9s more thing at work and then I am going
649.1s to call it a day and go get my
652.3s endorphins so believe it or not it's already like the end of Q2 April May June yes so crazy I feel like this year is flying by the last thing I'm doing right now is Google actually switched our performance review last year to quarterly reviews and so you know at the
654.9s already like the end of Q2 April May
657.6s June yes so crazy I feel like this year
660.0s is flying by the last thing I'm doing
662.6s right now is Google actually switched
665.0s our performance review last year to
666.8s quarterly reviews and so you know at the
669.2s end of every quarter I have to list two to three things I accomplished get feedback from two to three people I think with these quarterly reviews you can definitely tell how you've been spending your time versus like an annual review I feel like you kind of forget what you did and what you accomplished
671.2s to three things I accomplished get
673.1s feedback from two to three people I
674.9s think with these quarterly reviews you
676.6s can definitely tell how you've been
678.1s spending your time versus like an annual
680.0s review I feel like you kind of forget
681.7s what you did and what you accomplished
683.6s so I do like that about the quarterly ones is that it's so top of mind but that being said there definitely is a little bit more pressure to get done in 3 months I'm actually feeling quite proud of myself this year because some of you may know like last year I
685.4s ones is that it's so top of mind but
687.4s that being said there definitely is a
688.9s little bit more pressure to get
691.2s done in 3 months I'm actually feeling
693.4s quite proud of myself this year because
695.8s some of you may know like last year I
697.8s was just in such a slump and honestly I would get so much anxiety about these quarterly reviews last year because it just felt like I didn't have any momentum in the game and I think that's the perk of working with other people is you get a lot of insights on yourself
700.4s would get so much anxiety about these
702.4s quarterly reviews last year because it
703.9s just felt like I didn't have any
706.1s momentum in the game and I think that's
708.4s the perk of working with other people is
711.0s you get a lot of insights on yourself
712.9s how other people work and what they do well and like what you want to emulate I've been getting pretty positive feedback in the different work streams I'm in so I think this is definitely going to be a better quarter for me so anyways just going to do that and then head over to plaes
714.4s well and like what you want to emulate
716.0s I've been getting pretty positive
717.1s feedback in the different work streams
718.9s I'm in so I think this is definitely
721.4s going to be a better quarter for me so
724.3s anyways just going to do that and then
726.4s head over to plaes